[xyst]

Great - you provide an anecdotal case of a mid tier manager showing off some metric. What I want to know: is the performance of this team/org worse, better or the same as others?

> Nobody raised a concern. Nobody dared to say a single thing about that. And that ratio is unfortunately quite common in that company.

You have to ask yourself: why does nobody speak up? This is because of the loss of worker power. Corporate MBA flunkies don’t give a fuck about pay equity. If they can under pay (man|woman|non-binary) folk, they will do it and use politics/fake economics as cover to do so.

Tech workers not unionizing has fucked not only people of today. But people of tomorrow (your children and grand children).

But sure, yea let’s keep that fantasy alive of “yea we should unionize but I want to be a billionaire too and exploit others so let’s not do that. Also I get paid 6 figs to not care about others”

[scarab92]

Unions would be terrible for tech workers, because of the high variance in output between individuals.

Your best workers would be underpaid and leave, your worst overpaid and stay.

[xyst]

Good ‘ole “your best talent leaves and worst talent stays” anti-union/union busting propaganda. Have heard this many times over the years yet have not seen any data confirming this.

Plays on your emotions but besides fear it doesn’t have any legs to stand on.

[scarab92]

Unions standardise wages.

That’s not much of a problem in most low skill roles where employee productivity exists in a narrow band, but it will never be tolerated by high skill workers.

It’s not just unions, you also see this effect when employers use pay guides to limit wages. The best employees leave because they are no longer being paid in proportion to their value.

[JohnnyLarue]

LOLOLOL and the union dues too, right? Guy is fresh out of Praeger U.

[jokethrowaway]

All the unionised sectors I know people in complains about unions extracting money for them and not doing anything

That's not the problem and not the solution.

Nobody speaks up because if you do you are canceled and branded as racist / mysoginist. Society is too polarised and freedom of speech is just a memory.

That said, I noticed (for the first time) people complaining and leaving 0 stars reviews at the last DEI training so maybe the times are changing.

[JohnnyLarue]

Let's hope not.