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And then the ten-year visa agreement happened in 2014. Why are you commenting at all?

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Because you said it started in 2015. It started in 2012.

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I said it started under Trump. You might or might not be aware that he became president in 2016.

What do you think happened in 2012?

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Xi took power. That’s when relations went down the drain.

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Do you have an example illustrating that? What happened that reflected worsened relations?

Is there any chance you're just making up everything you say?

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South China Sea militarisation started 2013. BRI in 2013. 2013 began the raise of cyber attacks on American businesses from China.