[flashfaffe2]

Genuine question for an outsider: would this imply that gold can be created? My memories from the last chemistry class I had, I clearly remember my teacher demonstrating philosopher stone ( aka changing materials in gold ) was feasible.

[somebodynew]

This article is about arsenic minerals acting like a sponge that holds and concentrates gold from the surrounding environment that it comes in contact with. It isn't creating new atoms of gold.

Gold can be created through an unrelated process of nuclear transmutation, but it's impractically expensive [0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthesis_of_precious_metals#G...

[gruturo]

Gold is a chemical element, not an alloy or any kind of mixture of other things - so no, chemical reactions won't help you get gold.

Nuclear reactions WILL produce gold - in many ways actually (none profitable afaik):

- throw a neutron or 2 at neighboring elements, ensure they have the right energy for the cross section, hopefully with neutron capture and beta decay you get some gold (maybe the stable Au197 version, maybe a violently radioactive isotope though, I wouldn't wear a ring made of that. And it will eventually stop being gold when it decays). Oh an immense amount of radioactive byproducts. And the starting elements are often more expensive than gold itself.

- Fuse 2 lighter elements with just the right weights, you may get gold. But creating elements above iron is energy-negative so your fusion reaction will immediately die unless you can sustain it. All the gold we found on the planet was created during supernovas IIRC.

- Fission something heavier and hope that gold is one of the pieces you're left with.

- Start with an unstable isotope of Thallium, Bismuth, etc and hope for a few alpha decays to line up and get you gold.

There are actually quite a few paths.... and ALL the gold you'll ever see, whether artificial or "natural", was created with one or another (but most really is from supernovas). Remember, we started with only the building blocks in the big bang, mostly Hydrogen.

[BobaFloutist]

Yeah it's always tickled me that we probably do have the technology to turn lead to gold, it would just be at an incredible loss. Almost fable-like that (one aspect of) what alchemists dedicated their whole lives to chasing is actually possible, just not actually worth it.

It's like if the federal government allowed you to print your own money but only if it was ones and it turned out that it cost $100/bill to do it properly.

[memorydial]

Nope, this doesn’t create gold, just helps existing gold accumulate in certain conditions. Actual gold creation requires nuclear reactions, which are technically possible but not practical.

[pfdietz]

Maybe not as impractical as you think.

Gold could be made by neutron capture on Hg-196. This is a rare isotope, so doing so would require two things: cheap neutrons, and a cheap way to enrich that isotope.

Helion's FRC scheme could provide the first if operated on DD (even if just at engineering breakeven). As for the latter, there's a scheme that's been proposed for mercury isotope separation that exploits the change in magnetic moment of mercury atoms when they are optically excited. This would use radiation from a mercury lamp that itself uses isotopically separated mercury to produce radiation that would selectively excite just that isotope, and steer the atoms in a beam using a magnetic track.

(This isotope separation technique has been proposed as a way to make fluorescent lights more efficient by reducing UV photon trapping in mercury vapor.)

The world's mercury production is low enough and this isotope rare enough that this wouldn't affect gold prices.

[Tuna-Fish]

A fun little fact: We now have the ability that alchemists sought for so long (transmuting elements through nuclear reactions), and we are using it to destroy gold, not create it.

The processes involved are so expensive to do that in terms of cost it doesn't really matter what you are using as the source material, and the way gold is very resistant to corrosion is useful for using as a target in experiments.