[echoangle]

But the license doesn’t apply to me as a customer if I can’t be expected to even notice it. If I buy a book in a bookstore, no one would assume that training LLMs on it would be explicitly forbidden. And adding a note to the book would probably not be binding because no one is expected to read the legal notice in a book.

[zelphirkalt]

Ah, I assumed, that the clauses regarding the use in training of an LLM are printed inside the book somewhere.

[EMIRELADERO]

It would still be unenforceable because there's no consideration.

There is nothing of value that the license gives me that I wouldn't already have if the contract didn't exist. I can already read the book, merely by having it in front of me.

[zelphirkalt]

How does that give you the right to train an LLM on it?

Or are we talking about training an LLM on it and never releasing that LLM to anyone ever? Then I guess it wouldn't matter. But if that LLM is released to anyone, shouldn't the author of the book have a say on it?

[EMIRELADERO]

> How does that give you the right to train an LLM on it?

Fair use gives me that right, not a contract or license.

[zelphirkalt]

Whether that falls under fair use is highly debatable.

[EMIRELADERO]

It's going through the courts right now. We'll probably have an answer in a year or two.