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by jiveturkey 503 days ago
They were deceptive about why they removed static IPs and port forwarding. Such deceptions speak to character, and a VPN company isn't private -- it's trust transference. So character matters.

There are 6 other providers that do offer static IP, and one of those uses AWS nitro to ensure that mappings aren't available to LEO. So this wasn't a technical limitation.
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ziddoap 503 days ago
>They were deceptive about why they removed static IPs and port forwarding.

What were they deceptive about? Their announcement is straight forward.

"Regrettably individuals have frequently used this feature to host undesirable content and malicious services from ports that are forwarded from our VPN servers. This has led to law enforcement contacting us, our IPs getting blacklisted, and hosting providers cancelling us.

The result is that it affects the majority of our users negatively, because they cannot use our service without having services being blocked."

https://mullvad.net/en/blog/removing-the-support-for-forward...

I'm not saying you have to agree with the decision, but I don't see any deception. They even gave a months notice.

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jiveturkey 503 days ago
that was not their original announcement
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ziddoap 503 days ago
According to the wayback machine, it is.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230530003202/https://mullvad.n...

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jiveturkey 501 days ago
I stand corrected, apologize for misinformation, and thank you for sticking with this thread.

But if I may put my cynical hat on (I think this is fair for any VPN provider), mullvad states in HN[0]

> Port forwarding needed to be removed on moral grounds.

Fair enough, however such moral grounds only came to light when extreme and immediate pressure was applied to their business model. The same post does talk about abuse, but only in terms of how it created a negative experience for "some" users (no details). The blog post does go into those negative effects, good, and doesn't try to whitewash it in moral reasons, also good. I think I mistook the official blog with an official statement here on HN.

There was another HN post apparently by a mullvad engineer that didn't pull any punches. I can't find it anymore, but I remember that it was that post that somehow led me to kfred's post and then left a very bad taste in my mouth. Maybe someone else is a better researcher than me and can dig it up.

I'll retract my "character" criticism, since mullvad clearly cares deeply about privacy, regardless of my perceived problems with their public communications.

Personally, iCloud Private Relay ticks all the boxes for my use cases, so I should have just kept my mouth shut.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37062965

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kfreds 503 days ago
What do you mean by static IPs? Mullvad has never offered static IPs to customers. Please clarify.
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