[phil21]

> What's interesting is that in many cities now, Uber and Lyft are in fact more expensive than taxis.

Sure, agreed.

> And the experience is equally mediocre.

Absolutely not. I regret using a taxi nearly every time I opt for the cheaper option. It's only the "better" choice if you happen to be standing right in front of one. This experience is nearly universal no matter where I travel.

I think people really forget how utterly terrible Taxis were pre-Uber. I have no idea about competing apps these days, maybe they are similar to Uber, but the typical Taxi experience is nearly as awful as it's always been at least in the US.

Uber/Lyft certainly has gotten worse - but at least I can fairly reliably get a car when I need it with reasonable reliability. The rest of the "soft" product or pricing I really care far, far, less about than that simple fact.

[haswell]

> the typical Taxi experience is nearly as awful as it's always been at least in the US

It seems impossible/problematic to generalize the taxi experience to “The US”.

If you’re in a city center, cabs can be far easier. The number of times I’ve ordered an Uber or Lyft and regretted it while watching taxi after taxi drive by has been increasing. But I expect the Chicago loop experience to be quite different from say, the suburbs.

[mrguyorama]

> quite different from say, the suburbs.

My small rural town of 9000 people had multiple taxi services that poorer people relied on to do even their grocery shopping. We didn't need "disruption"

Tech bros generalizing a negative experience from NYC or SV to the entire US has been so stupid.

[tmnvdb]

If you didn't need disruption, why did people choose to use the new service?

[haswell]

Couldn’t the same thing be said about Walmart killing small businesses?

The fact that disruption occurred doesn’t necessarily mean that the end result is better.

[Supermancho]

> Uber and Lyft are in fact more expensive than taxis.

I doubt that.

I double checked, just to be sure since I paid for taxis for years for a specific trip, each way. Uber is still cheaper TODAY than taxis were when I switched 10 years ago. One way 5 minute trip, Friday 6pm in orange county, ca still under 20$ today.

20$ was a good deal (or ripoff, depending on your attitude) for a taxi in 2015, for the same distance and a variable waiting time. Let's just say it's about equal for sake of discussion. There was no app, but there was a dispatcher you could call. There was no incentive to improve, until then.

Companies have had to adapt and prices have come down. It would no doubt be 30$+ today for taxis, if not for rideshare companies.