[brnaftr361]

Anecdotally, this is true even as an adult. As a non-trad student the application side of things as they are taught are fairly effete, we learn how to translate graphs in algebra, quadratics, polynomials... I don't recall much in the way of meaningful application in either trig or algebra and what was there was remembered solely in the context of future examination.

In one hand I would argue there is virtually no incentive for play, or discovery, or superfluous activity with the math due to grading, and in fact it's disincentivized as it is one factor of a multivariate optimization problem. On the other hand I would argue that it's taught too fast as an effect of the former condition - as someone who isn't in a highly mathematical branch of STEM the use of mathematics is comparably infrequent when considering the TEM, as such atrophy sets rapidly after examination. And this could be said more generally with the S as well, though there is some degree of reinforcement there.

As things are, I feel that the timeline is askew, the won't if these institutions to produce biologists along the same timeline as they did a few decades ago is a little ridiculous considering the ballooning of quantitative discovery that has occured since, for instance, it wasn't so long ago that DNA was a conceptual exercise.

Moreover, the failure of education to keep with the times and adapt a realistic curricula for the modern era is also inhibitory. Indeed I would argue that the current academic zeitgeist is working against itself. At once being a trade program and while also trying to facilitate the development of "academia" itself are forces acting against one another. The number of premed students running the gauntlet in my program far outweigh the number of people with [let's say] legitimate interest in learning about the concepts in the program, which are also made to compete with the premeds in the limited slots available for lab internships. In my experience this leads to a chilling effect. Fortuitously, once in a lab things tend to be a little more facorable in terms of rapport.