[doublerabbit]

> I’m surprised that the British public stands for it, but I guess they must not care.

I can educate people but it always comes back to "I've not got anything to hide". What are we suppose to do, go out to the streets and protest? Start a petition, right to a PM who has no idea what encryption is?

Mentioning Linux to my family opens a can of worms. We are naive to think protesting actually changes something, it's old fashion. Those with power just don't care so unless people attack with their wallets nothing will come from.

It's not 1995 so unless you have £ for lobbying surrounded by people in suites there is nothing public of any nation can do against anyone in power.

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They have this power precisely because you have given up. Government power is derived from the consent of the goverened. Collective action does work and always will, but it needs to be coordinated. If enough people in the UK stopped going to work, they could affect change pretty quickly I reckon.

[doublerabbit]

> They have this power precisely because you have given up.

I've not given up, I just don't follow outdated methods of means to take back power. I use my wallet, I don't shop at amazon.

Stop being a consumer and supporting a ego who supports the wars, causes your protesting against. That would be the next greatest thing but we are too convenienced by these services.

Contradiction much? One where we would rather go and protest, head home and then go and support companies that do the opposite of what your fighting for. That is why protests are flawed. I'd rather be out on a Saturday picking up litter (like I do) than be at a protest and that's not just because I don't support the cause.

I just see the it as a old-fashioned method that doesn't apply to today’s new powers. You can't fight for power and then oppositely go and do the opposite nor can you fight when the power is to corrupt. Level the playing field is all you can do.

Innovate, create and throw it back in their faces and don't sell out when the FANG bites you with your cheque.

> Collective action does work and always will, but it needs to be coordinated.

Of course, but who wants to coordinate it. Why not yourself, adding to who wants to be put on a hit list? I get executed and then what, It all goes back to how it was. The Boeing whistleblowers ended up dead, any recourse from that?

[Chance-Device]

Don’t you think maybe this attitude is part of the problem?

[doublerabbit]

Not at all. We should be banding together to make the next best thing but people are lazy, but who can blame them? Easier to just press the big red NetFlix button and then order food on GrubEats.

I'm being realistic, in the capitalist world we live in unless you have assets, power your worth nothing.

You have no voice, no power, ever. Where's the futuristic project that saves the world? I'm sure the next JavaScript library posted on the front page of HN will be it.

I hate to be "woke" and break it to you that in this reality that your just a schmuck to an entity who's paying you to ensure that your powering their machine with bare benefits; if your lucky. Many homeless folk out there.

Heck, if you've got a job after this ML/AI fluff, you must be good at it. I'm 35 and above cynical at this point, I see no hope in this world from both people and those who run the show.

Take it as you wish, I wouldn't hold it against mother earth imploding herself because of the vile the homo sapiens race has become. Anyway, back to our designated cubicles within the walled gardens we opted for.

[robertlagrant]

> I'm being realistic, in the capitalist world we live in unless you have assets your worth nothing. You have no voice, no power, ever.

Describe a better (on average) world and let's try it.

[doublerabbit]

Less convenience, more care. More respect, less extreme actions. Effective penalities issued to those who break the rules.

A fine to a $multinational company isn't punishment. Strip their assets from.

More respect for one another would uphold so much more positivity in this world, but no we must judge and align folk in to groups. We are still divided by diversity. It's 2025 and we still have issues over someone being black, white or in-between.

[robertlagrant]

I don't know how any of that would translate into a replacement for capitalism, except for capitalism with less plastic?

[doublerabbit]

Capitalism isn't inherently bad. It works well with respect.

But in this day and age capitalism has gotten so rootless that nothing is done when the power in question abuses their power. There is no respect in today’s capitalism, upgrade respect and you'll have upgraded capitalism. we only go to war because of lack of respect.

Turn the page of the plastic age. I'm now rate limited so that's my digital protesting done for today. Not that anyone has taken side and protested with but would rather point how my ideology is wrong and not contributing to what they would do. But I'm sure you'll be buying your pickets off amazon and walking around town with them only to be tossed aside after the rally this Saturday for them to do something comfy either whether it being Netflix, gaming or porn.

But that's okay it's why I do litter picking out of civil respect; not enough. That way I can pick up the crap that people think they are fighting for as my power of fighting back. When you do go for a smoke, throw the butt on the street, spit on the pavement I'll be there scrubbing that too. Where's the respect? But, hey. People suck we know this. Companies suck more.

Can you threaten class-action lawsuits? If so: Donald, Elon, Jeff, America, UK, Israel, Russia, Microsoft, Google, Apple; you name it. If $entity has treated the world with hurt, you have no respect. Is that what you want to hear? Because that's true capitalism.

Sugar coated? Close your eyes and turn on the TV; especially the news. Pick a side and enjoy the slaughter. You'll be dead soon.