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by hintymad 493 days ago
And a curious question: I was seeking the truth on the qualifier "obvious" and the legality of the EO in general, and I presented my case with references to the actual EO. My reasoning could be very wrong but at least I tried to stick with the discussion of the actual legality of the EO.

What's your reason to flag it and downvote it without counter arguments? Anything that does not agree with your rage is automatically morally bad bad bad?
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unsnap_biceps 492 days ago
I believe that the existence of DOGE and the EO is legal. I don't believe that what they are actually doing (according to reports) is legal. I believe they are doing illegal things based upon Musk's own tweets, however, I do actually hope he is just trolling and it's not actually happening as he says it is.

That said, even if it's just trolling, trolling has no place in government. We all deserve better and we need to trust that what is said is the truth.

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gitaarik 492 days ago
So what "trolling" are you referring to?
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plugger 492 days ago
$50 million for condoms in Gaza is a good example.
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kurikuri 492 days ago
Has there been any proof to this claim outside of the White House press secretary?
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andy12_ 492 days ago
This grant [1]. "SUPPORT SEXUAL AND REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH (SRH) CARE CLOSE TO THE DISPLACED POPULATIONS. [...] Place Of Performance //XGZ GAZA STRIP GAZA STRIP". Though I don't think that it will be used exclusively for condoms, the one paragraph description doesn't give much details about how exactly the 45 million dollars will be spent.

[1] https://www.usaspending.gov/award/ASST_NON_SPRMCO24VC0339_19...

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unsnap_biceps 491 days ago
It also shows that zero dollars has been outlaid for the grant over the last 5 months. It's entirely possible that none of the money would have been used by the expiration of the grant.

That said, I wish these were required to be a lot more verbose. I can envision a program with that description I would totally approve of, and I can imagine programs with that description that I wouldn't think are useful. Being more transparent around the programs would help in cases where wild unsubstantiated claims are made.

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