[uLogMicheal]

An adversarial government having mass access to user data and social behavior information is worse because they can use it to compromise and recruit individuals to do real damage. Although debatable, the NSA is supposed to have the intentions to protect us, not inflict chaos.

[verdverm]

Which govt is more adversarial to me personally?

One can arrest me, one has no jurisdiction

[uLogMicheal]

The one not partnering with terrorists and cartels while shipping mass amounts of fentanyl and disruptors across the US border.

> One can arrest me, one has no jurisdiction

One does not care about your rights or jurisdiction and can do much worse covertly.

[cyanydeez]

So did you ever read about opioids..coming...across the pharmaceuticals...being perscribed by...doctors...at the behest of corporations...who are held unaccountable?

Sounds more like you're stuck on red herrings instead of actual concerns about the people in the united states of america.

[uLogMicheal]

We do not have another substance as effective as opioids for treatment of acute and chronic pain. Yes, Americans deal with chronic health issues and chronic pain, partially attributed to CCP chemical lobbying efforts. They were over prescribed, that practice has changed due to regulatory effort, and lawsuits were brought and won against the worst offenders. Some think that the addiction crisis was amplified or exported from China to begin with as an act of covert warfare.

Shipping mass amounts of fentanyl precursors to organized crime agents to flood our streets is a whole different matter, surely you can see the difference? Street pills laced or cut with fentanyl KILL people. Addiction to street availability causes mass mental health issues and homelessness.

What about... doesn't make for debate in good faith.

[verdverm]

We've been through this various times with different drugs and different source countries. Step back from the present to look at the big picture. Fentanyl will be replaced by some other drug in due time

The issue is that we don't address the symptoms, just the causes. The current political environment doesn't allow us to have long-term thinking and problem solving. It's all about scoring political points for the ruling class

[cyanydeez]

Ok, but when the drugs are _coming form inside the house_, it's abit different.

We're talking actual doctors and big pharma addicting millions of americans.

Sorry man, if you don't give two cents about doctors and businesses doing "legal" drug dealing, you don't really care about border drugs either.

This is just a silly and apt conclusion.