[icedrift]

It is tragic that the only robust solution for cross platform apps eats up so much memory and storage but we're getting to the point where it's not that big a deal.

[viraptor]

Java and .Net/Avalonia are right there... Electron is not the only cross platform solution.

[infogulch]

While .NET has the cross-platform-vm thing going, is not particularly suited to cross-platform rendering. The web is. And don't get me started on WPF.

[viraptor]

That's why I mentioned https://avaloniaui.net/ which does the part. WPF is not bad compared to everything happening in the web frameworks.

[AcquiescentWolf]

I disagree. After working with WPF for a while, I'd prefer almost anything from the frontend world (except React) over WPF. Avalonia is nice though.

[throwaway2037]

Is WPF cross-plaform?

[AcquiescentWolf]

* WPF: Windows-only.

* MAUI: Windows, macOS, Android, iOS.

* Avalonia: Windows, Linux, macOS, Android, iOS, browsers.

[lmm]

I can remember when the rhetoric against Java apps being "slow" was just as strong as it is against Electron now. And they've always been less native-feeling and clunkier than Electron.

[pjmlp]

Java is a ferrari when compared to Electron.

[lmm]

How so? I know there are theoretical arguments and microbenchmarks that Java might be faster than JavaScript, but I've never seen an actual user-facing GUI app in Java that felt smoother to use than good Electron apps.

[viraptor]

Electron shifted the scales to below the old Java while Java improved. It's still not great, but given a choice? Let Electron die.