[roenxi]

> I know that during the Bush era, the republicans would be AGHAST at someone like him.

The Bush era has been the worst disaster for the right wing this century in both the US and potentially globally. He was a warmonger, an economic vandal and an unprincipled man at the helm of a state that flubbed any chance at setting up for meaningful long term success in favour of the patriot act and slaughtering goat herders in the middle east. Under his eye the Republicans exiled the right from cultural relevance for around a decade. The party around him were cut from the same cloth.

There is a reason the modern Republican party went with Trump rather than another person who looked like Bush. The entire Trump story has been the Republicans - without too much recrimination - attempting to purge the remains of the Bush era because they were a gross embarrassment whos legacy has been little short of a disaster. If the US Democrats had undertaken the same purge instead of embracing the leadership of the same era then they wouldn't have tried to run Biden then Kamala.

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This is what is annoying - you saw a noun, and talked about that noun. Not about the conversation we were having which is about standards of decency expected from the Dems in speech.

And how those standards don’t matter on the right.

Bush was an idiot, does stating that satisfy you ? Would that allow you the peace to reconnect with the point ? (Also yeah. Warmongers suck. Surprisingly something everyone agrees on. The anti war position is the OG leftie position, so it’s great to see it on the right.)

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Maybe make your point more directly next time. It seems that point was winning is the only thing that matters and that is driving change in the Republicans.

That isn't what is happening; if they were focused on winning at all costs they wouldn't ever nominate Trump. The man has some of the most dedicated enemies out there short of those found in a multi-generational religious war and he doesn't poll especially well. The female half of the population tend to be a bit lukewarm towards him and that doesn't help win elections either since there are a lot of them.

The Republicans are engaged in an ideological reform to clear out specifically the people who were active in the Bush years. That happens to be a broader election winner too.

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Trump is a repudiation of every Repub value out there. He is non Christian, he is not the person of small government. He found time to insult McCain.

All that matters is that Trump wins elections. This isn’t even a secret, this is literally what many Trump voters have said.

And since when do Repubs care 1 whit about enemies?

Finally - you are free to believe what you like. If this makes you feel better, so be it. I have no desire to take it from you.