[lisp2240]

The problem is, in America, both magnets pull to the right. We have a far right republican party and a center right democratic party. There is no leftwing party to provide balance. There’s not a single democrat who would be considered a leftist outside America.

[intended]

One magnet is the media, the other magnet is an orwellian party/media firm.

Also - this used to be hacker news. As in who gives a shit about what is, its about what needs to change.

Think of it this way - this is just a puzzle that needs to be cracked. Take it as a job application problem, and see how it can be dissected over the weekend.

Come up with some theories, then go see if you can disprove them.

Fixing anything, comes from defining the right problem anyway.

[mc32]

Outside of Europe, in the rest of the world where 85% of the people live, what are examples of successful or meaningful leftist parties?

[margalabargala]

The Worker's Party is a center-left party that is currently the ruling party in Brazil.

Also, China is nominally a communist country. Vietnam is a communist country.

[lupusreal]

In Vietnam, slave labor makes t-shirts sold in American walmarts. Is this successful or meaningful leftism?

[margalabargala]

The parent was asking about political parties. In Vietnam, the leftist party runs the country. If "in charge of a politically stable, economically growing country for decades" doesn't meet the definitions of "successful or meaningful" in the context of a political party you're going to have to be more specific.

[lupusreal]

More successful than meaningful, like the way China is nominally communist but arguably not meaningfully so, as he mentioned.

[maleldil]

> Worker's Party is a center-left party that is currently the ruling partying Brazil.

PT stopped being a left-wing party decades ago. The current vice president was once a presidential candidate and leader of a neoliberal party.

[causality0]

People who express this sentiment seem to consider "the world" to be composed of North America and Europe. Why do you ignore the conservatives of Africa, the Middle East, India, and Asia in your assessment of what "average" is?

[potato3732842]

They're not even including all of Europe. They're basically writing off everything east of the Oder.