[dingnuts]

all that fiddling and copy pasting takes me longer than just writing the code most of the time

[skydhash]

And for any project that's been around long enough, you find yourself mostly copy-pasting or searching for the one line you have to edit.

[codr7]

Exactly, while not learning anything along the way.

[liamwire]

Only if you assume one is blindly copy/pasting without reading anything, or is already a domain expert. Otherwise you’ve absolutely got the ability to learn from the process, but it’s an active process you’ve got to engage with. Hell, ask questions along the way that interest you, as you would any other teacher. Just verify the important bits of course.

[codr7]

No, learning means failing, scratching your head, banging your head against the wall.

Learning takes time.

[liamwire]

I’d agree that’s one definition of learning, but there exists entire subsets of learning that don’t require you to be stuck on a problem. You can pick up simple, and related concepts without first needing to struggle with them. Incrementally building on those moments is as true a form of learning as any other I’d argue. I’d go as far as saying you can also have the moments you’re describing while using an LLM, again with intentionality, not passively.