[sincerecook]

You're not being very charitable, have you considered that you may be letting your biases have an undue influence on your judgement here?

[9283409232]

I would flip this back on you. They gave a very good example of these rules being used for censorship with DeSantis prosecuting scientist for reporting numbers. Selective enforcement is a known thing so is your affection for the people in charge stopping you from seeing the obvious problem here?

[sincerecook]

I support the purported intent of this policy, not the misuse of it. But that's something that has to be challenged when it happens, and it hasn't happened yet. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to make any policy since it could always potentially be misused. For the record I expect there will be some misuse of it, but broadly I also expect it to curtail the fake woke "science" that was itself a kind of misuse of the system.

[drawkward]

...can you point to some of this 'fake "woke" science'?

[sincerecook]

Here's a study that looked at precisely the kind of thing this policy will address: https://www.cspicenter.com/p/increasing-politicization-and-h...

To be clear, I would be in support of this policy even if there was no evidence because it sets a tone that I think is positive.

[9283409232]

The tone it sets is that "we don't care about studying anything relating to minorities or people who weren't born with a silver spoon" which I wouldn't call a positive tone.

[drawkward]

But is the "woke science" incorrect? It is possible that it is both accurate and something you dislike?

[drawkward]

I was being charitable by asking whether you are gullible or a parrot. Gullible is the charitable interpretation. This whole action has been done on a pretext of lies: getting politics out of science, when it fact is is putting politics into science.

[sincerecook]

The politics was already in the science. So in the same spirit of being charitable that you afforded me, are you naive or foolish?

[9283409232]

Politics and science are inseparable. There is no such thing as no politics in science.

[freejazz]

But just the science relating to "women", not the science relating to "men?"