[RealityVoid]

Disclaimer: not an US citizen.

I appreciate your post, and I think there is some truth to what you're saying. The problem is that... It's hard bordering on impossible for me to process what these people see good in what he's doing. I've tried, mind you, I've really truly tried. But this whole thing sounds insane to me. There is no way for me to erase the bigger picture from my mind that I get to the point... "yeah, he's doing a good job."

The second point is I feel a lot of these people are NOT arguing in good faith. If someone is not arguing in good faith, being "understanding" would just embolden them.

Honestly, this whole thing makes my head explode.

[mostertoaster]

I have a hard time expressing why I like what Trump is doing. It might just be to see those squirm who put us through Covid lockdown hell, or just someone who is so willing to do whatever openly.

An example I like: they deport a bunch of Colombians here illegally, Socialist Colombian President refuses to let the plane land, Trump immediately says we are going to hammer them with tariffs and other things, Colombian President apologizes and says they won’t get in the way.

He is just exerting American dominance openly. He took us out of the WHO, ends the dumb climate accord. The idea that we should put our own people first.

Now it all might blow up in our face as the world gets sick of the American bully, and that will crush our empire, but I’m also ok with that, because it might be the only thing that will allow us to rebuild from the ground up.

[RealityVoid]

Well, at least you're honest about it, it's somewhat refreshing. How do you feel about the way he is treating your traditional allies? Canada, the EU...

[mostertoaster]

Well I don’t like Trudeau so I’ve enjoyed his trolling of him as “the governor of the great state of Canada”. For the most part I don’t mind, but we will come to regret it if war actually breaks out. I think for the most part it is all superficial, and yes tariffs (which are terrible for an economy), will not do well long term, but have already forced Mexico and Canada to act at least, and I think that was the intent. Essentially saying you need us more than we need you. If/When that is no longer true, it is going to come back to bite us if we’ve completely burned all the bridges with our allies.

As it is the United States military is so dominant around the world, NATO should just be considered an overseas American army for example, and Trump is essentially just exerting the us dominance in a blunt way, but it has always been wielded, but is always prettied up to not sound like what it is. A giant military empire of force. Trump is just showing us what has always been behind the curtain of the US government, and the US use of power.

I think long term it will weaken the American empire, but will also make us less reliant on globalization, but I think if all the individual EU countries took a mindset of “our citizens first” like Trump it will be a good thing.

[jquery]

Trump put us through Covid lockdown hell. Awfully strange to re-elect the guy responsible for the worst of Covid.

What happened with the Colombians was the President said "you cannot land them here in chains and handcuffs" and Trump threatened tariffs, then cancelled the tariffs, then caved into the Colombian President's demands and removed the handcuffs from the Colombian citizens. Fox News and conservative media spun this as a "win" because Trump made a threat and also because they misunderstood why Colombia refused the plane.