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by wtp1saac 502 days ago
this is pure horror.

this can’t be allowed to stand. it doesn’t matter the offenses, criminals have Constitutional rights El Salvador de facto does not grant them.

what the fuck are the Democratic governors and states doing right now? the union is being tortured and rewritten to authoritarians before our very eyes.

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They had a problem that needed solving. Now a "bad cop" came in to solve it. They can just sit pretty and keep their "good cop" image.
if you’re not a Moscow bot I am in disbelief of you. do you not see where this road leads? this is not politics. this is a nightmare.
You asked “what the fuck are the Democratic governors and states doing right now?”

…and I think the reply answers the question (although I find the answer a horrifying thought as well).

My point is - I don’t think the person replying to you was endorsing the idea, just giving a plausible explanation for why there’s not an immediate uproar: perhaps some folks in government are actually okay with that. :(

Exactly, thank you.

I'm not endorsing the behavior, but think like a politician for a moment. Someone comes in and takes care of a legal and ethical mess. All you have to do is get out of the way and not interfere. Not only do you not get smeared with this mess - you even get to be a knight in shining armor who'll replace the bad guy later. And your problem stays gone. Seems like a no-brainer.

It’s outsourcing. Frankly, it’s really only an issue if they hold a US citizen and do not provide appropriate constitutional protections. That would be the same as any offshore provider not meeting a service commitment…you fire them and they are out the contract.

Not to sound insensitive, but if they are only holding noncitizen criminal deportees awaiting transport back to their home country and they are able to do that cheaper than we can in the US…I am have a tough time seeing a negative with this.

This has also been presented (in media with a certain slant) as "evil people will break apart families and put mommy and kiddo in different cells in Gitmo). In reality, the only people who have a chance of seeing the inside of a Gitmo cell are MS13 and Tren members. And why shouldn't they?
Why would we care what Democrats are doing? After having lost every branch of government, they can no longer be the adults in the room. The only option left to them is civil war, which obviously won't happen till things get much worse (if it can at all). What are Republicans doing to head this off? They can't all agree with this, can they??
Why wouldn't they? Surely they have nothing to fear "being sent off to a prison in Salvador is for the othered people"
> what the fuck are the Democratic governors and states doing right now?

Defying presidential orders. Suing to block them.

At this point, if you are a US citizen and not writing to your representatives every day to express your concerns about what is happening right now, you aren't a patriot.
My representatives shouldn't need my fucking letters!
They shouldn’t, but they do. I call mine each day.
And does that change their behavior or their votes?
Yeah, like, do they not know what to support or oppose here? (I think they're all pretty decided one way or the other.)
phone calls have more impact than letters