[theossuary]

Propaganda, mostly. Conservatives have gained control of most Media outlets, and have been using them to launder consent. It's incredible that we've given Democrats absolutely no power, they can do literally nothing, and yet they're still somehow to blame for what Republicans are doing.

[latency-guy2]

Which ones?

Democrats received more money than Republicans from big tech and media for a very long time, including the most recent presidential election. Are big media stupid for donating more to their enemies than who they purportedly support?

Your other option is admitting that Democrats had previously owned the media and doing precisely the thing you're accusing Conservatives of doing. You definitely cannot claim they did not seeing the checks written out to DNC and other PACs alongside the board seats from previous administrations.

[bufferoverflow]

I doubt it was propaganda. If you look at the polls, the most important issues have been the economy, the immigration and the violent crime. All 3 of which have been absolutely disastrous for the Biden/Harris administration.

And people voted accordingly, and correctly.

Biden's approval rating is 39%, disapproval at 58%.

https://www.cnn.com/polling/approval-rating-poll-of-polls

[bee_rider]

Polling on particular issues can be shifted by propaganda, so this isn’t a particularly strong argument against the idea.

Although, I’m not sure what propaganda really means in this context anyway, I mean, “the economy” is a pretty abstract thing so people engage with it mostly through reporting of various sorts. The decision of what aspects of the economy to focus on could be seen as propaganda.

The admin plays in a global economy which is ridiculously complex, so there’s always room for it to be doing as well as possible when my guy is in charge, underperform expectations when the bad guy is in charge.

[bufferoverflow]

When we speak about these 3 issues, there's no need for any propaganda.

Violent crime is out of control.

Illegal immigration is out of control.

Purchasing power of the population went down a lot, while average salaries haven't grown (or dropped significantly in some areas).

[entropicdrifter]

>Violent crime is out of control.

Hilarious because it is in fact down: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-...

You've been propagandized, my friend

[rangestransform]

Your own source says that violent victimizations is up YoY, and crime reporting is down YoY

[user9999999999]

that is a dishonest interpretation of the data, the overall _trend_ is "U.S. violent and property crime rates have plunged since 1990s, regardless of data source"

[olleromam91]

The fact you can't recognize how propaganda can distort the reality of the issues you are listing above, makes one question if you actually understand what propaganda is, or have any interest in understanding reality.

I won't ever claim it's a simple picture, but there's enough peer-reviewed information out on the web to elaborate on your 3 rather unspecific talking points. We can hold your hand if it's too scary to google each of your issues above, I do have empathy that changing ones belief system is scary, but the alternative is delusion.