[hipadev23]

Then we remove upvotes and downvote entirely. Web2.0 online discourse (visibility is controlled by recommendation algos keyed on upvotes/downvotes) is fundamentally broken.

[tptacek]

That would create a different forum. HN is an experiment in how long this kind of forum can ward off gravitational collapse. There are things fundamentally wrong with these kinds of forums, but that's true of every kind of forum.

[hipadev23]

Very well then. I’m going to create a better product to accelerate that gravitational collapse.

See some of you on the other side but it won’t be here. I’m out.

[tptacek]

That's exactly what you should do! Psyched to see whatever you come up with.

[dang]

Not to pile on what tptacek has already nicely said, but I agree and still think there is plenty of room for new forums. The vast majority of possible permutations have not been tried yet, and I wish more people would.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13672813

[mtmail]

I'm all for new forums trying different approaches at moderation. From loose to strict, from open to opaque.