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by jacobjjacob 497 days ago
Looking at the quoted post, what do they have against Direct File? It is really hard to keep track of their positions which I believe is intentional.
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Direct File competes with Intuit and other tax prep companies. Of course they're against it; DF threatens corporate profits.
Isn’t it wonderful when they make rules stating you must pay taxes, then they make it so convoluted and obscure that you’re forced to spend extra money to file them?

It seems almost like corruption.

DirectFile makes it such that anyone with a simple tax situation (some W-2s, some dependents, etc) can easily file their federal taxes online. Free. Straight to the IRS. My only gripe with DirectFile is that it doesn't yet cover more complex cases (but let's not have perfect be the enemy of good; it's probably good enough for 75% of citizens) and you still have to find a way to do state filings based on your state.
Well by next year it won't be available for anyone so no one will be dissatisfied with what it can and can't do!
It's an intentional position by the Republicans to condition Americans into reflexively supporting tax cuts. https://archive.ph/mQ0cu
True, except for the “almost”
This fuckery will continue unabated for the rest of our lives until we collectively stop paying income taxes with the demand that a Constitutional amendment is put in place to force the government to be honest and helpful both around the procurement (just sending a dang bill) and government spending (expressly forbidding genocides, foreign coups, certain bailouts, etc) with real teeth in it.

Of course, right now it seems even the existing amendments are not safe. Our government is a non-functioning, dishonest imperial oligarchy, and we just keep paying our tithing out of fear, telling ourselves it's all going to schools and highways.

When did the political system stop being about making life better for the average person?

In Sweden we have gotten a paper from the tax office saying "we believe your taxes should be like this" and then you can change parts you disagree with (and risk punishment if you are wrong).

Direct file seems great.

> When did the political system stop being about making life better for the average person?

In the US, when we elected mediocre actor Ronald Reagan, I think. His trickle-down economics nonsense turned out to be a just and early example of catering to the rich in broad daylight instead of behind closed doors. And the people, for the most part, bought it, so now we have legal scams like 401ks that the average citizen thinks are there to help them.

The point has always been to seize control of the money while removing all accountability and they are finally succeeding because liberals handed them the election over Gaza, which is no longer in even in our news cycle.

It all makes my stomach turn, to be honest.

I like the idea that trump is your punishment for supporting a genocide, enjoy him and his goons dismantling the federal state.
When there's interests which are making $100's to $1000's from many millions of people in the USA and want to keep it going.
(Really) not saying it's a good idea, but if Swedes were required to fill in the paperwork, or even better/worse actually transfer the taxes (maybe including payroll), we would probably be more upset with how our taxpayer money is spent.

If you are politically motivated to minimize the tax burden, it makes sense to be skeptical of direct filing (even if you are not bribed by Intuit).

I didn't think of it like that. Interesting thought.
Unrelated corporations are not natural allies. In fact they often compete.
This is true, but it’s much harder to compete against a free government service and that’s not the only option. For example, how much does Intuit’s advertising budget on X have to go up for it to be worth the effort of a few hours? (Repeat for xAI contracts or fleet Tesla purchases)

I don’t know if there is any quid pro quo but that’s why we have ethics laws because otherwise you have to constantly ask whether something is good for the country or just the guy making the decision.

Well the person making the decision can just decide to do what they think will make them most money on a stock trade too, it's like they built corruption into the system. So, they could sort Intuit/Quicken then announce gov will provide free software... make a killing on the short, then say 'only kidding'!
Yes, that’s why we have laws specifically banning insider trading and people in senior level positions are required to disclose their trading activities.
Competitors can have mutual interests.
They oppose anything that reduces private companies revenue. Direct file reduces Intuits TurboTax revenue.
Many in the GOP are generally opposed to federally-funded free tax return filing: https://pennsylvaniaindependent.com/politics/irs-direct-file...

> In December, however, Kelly and 28 House Republican colleagues wrote to President-elect Donald Trump to ask him to end the program: “We write to urge you to take immediate action, including but not limited to a day-one executive order, to end the Internal Revenue Service’s (IRS) unauthorized and wasteful Direct File pilot program. The program’s creation and ongoing expansion pose a threat to taxpayers’ freedom from government overreach, and its rollout and structural flaws have already come at a steep price.”

All the dramatic language they use to dress up their claims is completely ridiculous.
The argument (if you take it in the most charitable light) is that reducing barriers to paying taxes will make people less averse to paying taxes. So they fight any effort to bring sanity to the tax code or tax payment process.

So even taken charitably I think they are wrong. But I do believe it is simply just corrupt and malicious.

You'd think the threat of having your bank accounts frozen and armed law enforcement officers showing up at your door were the most significant factors in making people "less averse" to paying taxes. I doubt reducing the barriers to filing your taxes correctly makes anyone happier about having to pay taxes either.
You should see the crazy shit they say about the IRS hiring 80,000 more employees that they desperately need.
What the actual fuck. Simplifying government paperwork = government overreach. Got it.
> It is really hard to keep track of their positions which I believe is intentional.

The reasons are unimportant. The important thing is that you trust Uncle Don and Uncle Elon, our grand leaders, who always have your best interests at heart.

It's referred to as Elizabeth Warren's Direct File project.