| > I think rust was helped by being part of Mozilla and really helped when they got experienced devs (guys who made ruby Bundler) to build the Cargo package manager pre 1.0 That's one of the reasons Rust became as widespread as it is now. However we are talking about a "what if Rust never existed" scenario. I'm confident that kind of scenario we'd be talking about a different-yet-similar language, maybe one that never got invented in our version of reality, as having the same or similar forces that helped that hypothetical language. My point is that people wanted a successor to C++. So it was going to happen. In our reality it was Rust. But if Rust wasn't created by Greydon then someone else would have created something else to fill that void. > I think it was far from inevitable that some other language to compete with c++ would have come out anytime soon if rust hadn't been around (and hadn't made good enough choices). It might have happened but decent chances it wouldn't have. I very much disagree with this assumption. We have D, ObjectiveC, C#, Zig, Go, OCaml and others born out of the need to to iterate and improve on what came before it. But nothing had really caught on in the domain of safety + zero-cost abstractions principle. And particularly not aimed at C++ devs. It's been a contentious point for years -- a void people have been looking to fill. So it was only a matter of time before something caught on. But this is all hypothetical. Plus if you subscribe to the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, then arguably we're both right :D |