[ben_w]

In addition to the european groups bought by US big tech, and all the European divisions of American-parented big tech firms?

A quick search reveals DeepMind, Skype, SwiftKey, Shazam, Moodstocks for the former. Bit of overlap with the latter, too, as e.g. AlphaFold is from DeepMind after getting bought.

Quick look on the Apple App store also gets me Komoot (Germany), Trade Republic (Germany), Revolut (UK), Babbel (Germany).

Aside from them, ETH Zürich and CERN are doing pretty good work, too, the latter inventing the modern hypertext based web on which you are currently reading this.

Cambridge has some decent digital tech, also has Metalysis and The Welding Institute and was where the double helix structure of DNA were found and where Stephen Hawking chose to work.

[kandesbunzler]

okay so the very few examples you named have been bought up and are now part of american companies. And did you really just bring up komoot, a outdoor biking/hiking app, as a comparison to silicon valley? lmfao

[ben_w]

You seem unable or unwilling to understand:

1) why they were bought by the American companies

2) that having an American owner doesn't make them directly American or magically cause them to be in Silicon Valley

3) The country names I put in brackets

4) The location of Zürich and CERN

And instead want to focus on the fact that one specific example of a top ranked app is not all by itself an entire sector, while ignoring all the other examples *right next to it* or the fact that this was trivial to find.

To demonstrate why you're missing the wood for the trees, consider: I can accurately say "Facebook" isn't really all that important, it's just an advertising provider getting in the way of people trying to talk to each other — but that it isn't all of Silicon Valley all by itself doesn't mean its headquarters are not relevant as an example of "Silicon Valley".