[freejazz]

>and wonder how an intelligent person can still think this, can be so absolute about it.

I wonder how people write things like this and don't realize they sound as sanctimonious as exactly whatever they are criticizing. Or, if I was to put it in your words: "how could someone intelligent post like this?"

[abecedarius]

You're right, it was kind of rude. Apologies. I really would rather be wrong, for a reason I gave in another comment.

The thing is, you can interact with this new kind of actor as much as you need to to judge this -- make up new problems, ask your own questions. "LLMs can't think" has needed ever-escalating standards for "real" thinking over the last few years.

Gary Marcus made a real-money bet about this.

[freejazz]

I think a better question is "what is the value of thought?" when it came to conclusions such as yours: "I should be rude to this poster because they disagree with me"