[sangnoir]

> That moat is trivially circumvented by lighting a larger pile of money and less trivially by lighting the pile more efficently.

DeepSeek has proven that the latter is possible, which drops a couple of River crossing rocks into the moat.

[withinboredom]

The fact that I can basically run o1-mini with deepseek:8b, locally, is amazing. Even on battery power, it works acceptably.

[tmnvdb]

Those models are not comparable

[withinboredom]

hmmm... check the deepseek-r1 repo readme :) They compare them there, but it would be nice to have external benchmarks.