[Temporary_31337]

“ 911 calls are mostly public information since they involve public services who all need to communicate with one another.” Umm not in Europe. First of all Tetra/Dimetra calls are E2E encrypted (with some famous vulnerabilities) then there’s privacy laws etc. It’s surprising that in the US where you have the right to protect your home and privacy even with lethal means, the same measures don’t extend cybernetically.

[1659447091]

> It’s surprising that in the US where you have the right to protect your home and privacy even with lethal means

What do you mean by protect your privacy (with lethal means)? You certainly do not have a right to lethally protect your privacy from a neighbor pointing a camera at your house, or similar, for example. You do have a right to protect yourself and your property using lethal means in my state (Texas). But they most certainly had better be both clearly on/in your property and an active threat to your personhood/possessions(property)--extra points for it being nighttime and/or you are female. I am not sure how protecting your physical things or self from an imminent threat is suppose to translate to a space where boundaries and jurisdiction are not as clear cut as your physical self/home.

*Had to take a class (for a concealed carry permit) that laid out in no uncertain terms when the use of lethal force is protected. And it is not as wanton & broad as people like to make it out to be.

[psmacleod]

I'd guess most municipalities in the US still use unencrypted analog radio, so all you need is a guy with a scanner. You don't even need a scanner where I live, they have a live feed available on the county website. When we had a house fire about 20 years ago, guys showed up to sell "board up" and restoration services before the fire trucks had left. It's a sleazy business. We went with the restoration company our insurance co. recommended, they were clear we could go with whoever we wanted but their preferred one guaranteed the insurance payout would fully cover the work. They were fine to work with and did a good job. There are also companies (at least in California where we lived at the time) that offer to take a cut of your payout to catalog your stuff and negotiate a claim with your insurance company. They make grand promises and seemed super sketchy.

[wyager]

> It’s surprising that in the US where you have the right to protect your home and privacy even with lethal means, the same measures don’t extend cybernetically.

Americans do have a constitutionally protected right to use cryptography. You don't have the right to force someone else to use it.

[chungy]

It's about having transparency. If the public can't monitor what 911 centers and police are doing, how can the public trust them?

[SergeAx]

That should have some corner cases. If criminals can monitor what police are doing - how the police can fight crime?

[bdcravens]

You can listen in to police/emergency radio chatter, and there's any multiple phone apps that let you pick a location to listen to.

[yapyap]

that’s because those lethal means have been written into the amendments and people have been brainwashed by the NRA to care about those amendments, especially the one to bear arms.

This lethal defense thing has been all about pushing more and more guns on people for financial profit, if there was a way to sell internet guns you have to use to shield your privacy, they would, their number 1. focus is money, everything else is number 2.

[unclad5968]

Should we stop caring about all the amendments or just the ones you don't like?

[wyager]

> This lethal defense thing has been all about pushing more and more guns on people for financial profit

The American firearms/ammo/accessories market is only about 1/3rd the size of the American cosmetics market.

Americans just really like guns - there's no shadowy profit motive here. There's simply not enough profit on the table for that.