[cooldrcool2]

Neither on of those examples are guns. Also a libertarian wouldn't just accept you murdering them, they would obviously attempt to defend themselves. Your arguments are kind of weak.

[AtlasBarfed]

The second amendment is the right to keep and bear arms allegedly. You know if you're a well regulated militia.

Anyway everything I listed is arms.

If you want to be literalist as to the actual arms of the second amendment, then nobody should be armed with anything but a breech loading musket.