[wouldbecouldbe]

They are nice words, ironically though their product is an exact clone of a US product (apart from the data stealing discussion). You could argue the cheaper aspect is innovating, but that's what China has been doing for many products.

[falcor84]

To the best of my knowledge, there's nothing quite like R1-Zero released by OpenAI or others, they seem to really be pushing innovation.

Relevant ARC-Prize post and discussion from yesterday: https://arcprize.org/blog/r1-zero-r1-results-analysis https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42868390

[wouldbecouldbe]

An iteration at best, some Chinese electric cars have a better battery then Tesla and are cheaper. Yet would hardly call them innovative as he claims the chinese should become. It's actually what the Chinese have been doing, copying and making it cheaper with slightly different features.