[llm_trw]

>HudZah was told that he could be killed by the high voltage, X-ray radiation and possibly other things. This only made him more excited. “My whole intention was, ‘If I fuck up, I’m dead, and this is why I should do it,’” he said.

It sounds like he got exactly what he wanted to.

>I must admit, though, that the thing that scared me most about HudZah was that he seemed to be living in a different technological universe than I was. If the previous generation were digital natives, HudZah was an AI native.

The one thing I'm somewhat ambivalent about is that LLMs are extremely atomizing. It's incredibly easy to go offline for months on end when you're talking to your computer.

If I got hit by a bus in 2005 when I was contributing to Linux and Postgres there were people who would pick up what I was doing and carry it forward.

If I get hit by a bus today, unless someone went through my chats, no one would really have any idea what I'd been working on and carry it on. I have a suspicion that a ton of the best and brightest have gone dark for this reason in the last two years.

[stevage]

Wow, I've never heard anything like this before. Is this really a thing? People disappearing because they're so deep down the rabbit hole with AI and don't need to talk to anyone?

[llm_trw]

I know a number of people who were building AI systems that either completely dropped off the face of the earth or show up once every few months with an update then disappear again. Granted the majority of them are perverts whose main use case is mixed reality wifus, but still.

I can't exactly blame them.

In the latest furor over deepseek r1 the conversation online was _substantially_ worse than what you'd get from feeding the original paper into r1 and talking to it.

This was the first time where I genuinely wondered what the point of reading groups, message boards and similar is. A model that you can run locally for $6,000 at 20tokens/s beat however many thousands of people because it actually spent the time to read what it talked about.

[asddubs]

comment sections where no one read anything but the headline having the same shallow discussions over and over again are a real thing, but I would wager to say that feeding an AI the paper and then having a discussion with it is just a different kind of shallow. You might as well just read the paper, the AI won't have any insights. The solution isn't AI, the solution is not talking to people who are substantially less informed than you and not really interested in becoming more informed. Hacker news is sometimes good and sometimes not, it depends heavily on the topic

[jajko]

Some people are... weirder for the lack of better word than one can imagine. We always project the world around us on our experiences and view of the world, and always (at least by default) project other people and their actions as those done by us, judge by our values etc.

Suffice to say, that's not how you will understand behavior of others, especially in non-trivial situations, other cultures and so on. Just accept people are different and you may very well never understand how they see rest of the world and others.

[pjc50]

How would you tell?

"Hikikomori" is not a new thing, long pre-dates AI, but I think similar things are starting to be observed outside of Japan. Internet-enabled entertainment competes with the real world and occasionally achieves total victory.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4912003/