[StressedDev]

Apple is no where near as invasive as Google. Most sites on the Internet phone home to Google. Here are some examples:

https://securepubads.g.doubleclick.net/ https://news.google.com/swg/js/v1/swg.js - I found these on the Washington Post's web site.

https://fonts.gstatic.com/s/opensans/v20/cJZKeOuBrn4kERxqtaU... https://www.googletagmanager.com/static/service_worker/51n0/... - I found these on New Egg's home page.

https://cm.g.doubleclick.net/pixel?google_nid=a9&google_cm&e... - I found this going to Amazon's home page.

https://www.gstatic.com/recaptcha/releases/I0bG74fWAenNf3Z5n... https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/anchor?ar=1&k=6LetQiEU... https://fonts.gstatic.com/s/roboto/v18/KFOmCnqEu92Fr1Mu4mxK.... - I found all of these on democrats.org.

https://ad.doubleclick.net/activity;register_conversion=1;sr...? https://9323526.fls.doubleclick.net/activityi;src=9323526;ty...? https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/anchor?ar=1&k=6LdJ810b... - I found these on www.gop.com.

Basically, Google tracks peopple everywhere. They track what news you read, where you shop, and what political party you support. Apple does none of this. No one tracks people on the Internet like Google. Facebook doesn't. Amazon doesn't. X doesn't. Microsoft doesn't (the own Bing). Apple certainly doesn't.

[lern_too_spel]

You will get tracked by those even if you use an Apple device. The key difference between Android and iOS is that Android gives users the ability not to be tracked. iOS (even MacOS) doesn't even let you uninstall Apple News. iOS won't let you get your location or install an app without telling Apple. It won't even let you run a browser other than Safari, which has known data leaking vulnerabilities. User control is the key privacy feature.

[aucisson_masque]

Apple does it one way, Google does the same thing but another way. Instead of locking everything down, preventing you to use any other browser than safari for instance, they push you to use their spyware. Android might be open source, but the Google play services are not and if you ever tried to do anything without them, you'd know it's impossible.

Both tracks you by forcing you to use their app that works as spyware.

[lern_too_spel]

> and if you ever tried to do anything without them, you'd know it's impossible.

I've done plenty of things without them. All Amazon devices do everything they do without them. Same with all Android devices sold in China.

[StressedDev]

Safari blocks a lot of these trackers. For more information, please see https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/browse-the-web-privat... .

Also, you missed the point of my comment. The comment I replied to basically was saying Apple and Google are equivalent because Apple sells ads (they sell search listings in the App store search and may run an optional advertising service for apps). My point was they are not equivalent because Apple does not track people around the web like Google does. The other things is Apple has released a lot of privacy features which interfere with the advertising spying machine.

At best, Google pretends to improve privacy. Google's business is basically building a profile on each individual so they can serve the most relevant ads to that person. They make more money when they serve relevant ads (ads people will see, and maybe buy something based on the ad). Google has no interest or incentive to protect privacy because their business depends on invading privacy.

[talldayo]

> My point was they are not equivalent because Apple does not track people around the web like Google does.

That's a pittance of privacy. Apple sells your search results out to Google, cooperates with NSA surveillance and institutes online DRM for your apps. They do not care about protecting you from tracking because tracking users is official policy for Apple in both iOS and MacOS.

It is pathetic to watch people on this site rush out to defend Apple like they aren't part of the problem. If you have witnessed Tim Cook's behavior over the past 10 years and still hold hope for Apple, you are not paying close enough attention.

> At best, Google pretends to improve privacy.

Google still published AOSP source code. That's not "pretending" to improve anything, it's an outright statement about the transparent security of their product. I hate AdSense and consider it an anticompetitive scourge on the internet, but I don't see Apple making commitments to security on the level of Google. Last I checked they were still trying to sue security researchers...

If you think Google is "pretending" to improve privacy, how can you deny that Apple pretends too? The reason people drill down on this isn't to defend Google, it's to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you do not actually know what Apple's stance is on this and cannot confirm it with hard evidence. You are repeating marketing and whitepapers, hoping that it's correct.

[scarface_74]

You very much can remove Apple News just like any other app on iOS.