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by whoknowsidont 506 days ago
The improvements are great for people who have to or want to use C# for whatever reason? But how does that move the needle from other tech-stacks that are for more capable, especially on non-Windows environments (and please don't imply that C# is truly cross-platform, it's fine for web API's, it's not fine when dealing with actual system calls).

If you're within the Windows garden, those tools certainly make sense to use. But if you're not, there just simply isn't a reason to burden your app/platform with them.

To be clear, there's nothing wrong with C#, but the advocacy for it tends to be quite loud and passionate without much technical clarity in what it brings to the table that's lacking in other ecosystems. And again, you might be in for a world of hurt depending on how complex your needs are.
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Capricorn2481 506 days ago
> and please don't imply that C# is truly cross-platform, it's fine for web API's, it's not fine when dealing with actual system calls

What exactly do you mean by this? How are syscalls worse in C# than other languages?

My understanding is other "cross-compiled" languages have cumbersome ergonomics with syscalls. They all use System or OS libraries that hide complexity and OS differences to varying degrees of success.

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zigzag312 506 days ago
What do you mean that it's not truly cross-platform?

https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2016/09/14/pinvoke-in-net...

https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2019/03/25/using-net-pinv...

> without much technical clarity in what it brings to the table that's lacking in other ecosystems

What other GC language offers such levels of both high level expressiveness and low level control and also has a big ecosystem?

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CharlieDigital 506 days ago
I'm not advocating it for every use case, I'm advocating it for use cases where it's a good fit (e.g. web APIs, backends where there's a need for multi-threaded code). For teams that need to move up from Node/JS/TS or augment Node/JS/TS, it's likely a better choice than say Rust or Go (nothing wrong with Go, but C# is going to be an easier ramp than Go for JS/TS devs IMO)

I would not, for example, advocate it for web UIs or any UIs except for Windows desktop UIs (and even there, I might advocate for JS based options).

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whoknowsidont 506 days ago
>I'm advocating it for use cases where it's a good fit

>I would not, for example, advocate it for web UIs or any UIs except for Windows desktop UIs

Well, the GP was talking about using C# for Flutter, a cross-platform product from desktop to web lol.

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