[steve_adams_86]

I get where you're coming from and generally agree. The trouble is that the integrated tools are all pretty bad, in my experience. If I can use DataGrip instead of some VS Code extension called "Database Client", I'm going to use DataGrip. I will often even prefer pgsql for many tasks. A mediocre tool might save time here and there because it's convenient, but I find their broader impact is poorer work done in worse ways.

Of course, this is all opinion in a very subjective context. Some people do best-in-class work with terrible tools.

[Macha]

Datagrip, of course, is just the integrated database editor of intellij packaged without the rest of intellij, so it's not a rule that integrated tools are always bad

[steve_adams_86]

Is it integrated into their IDEs? That's incredible. Fair point, then.

Maybe I should consider using their IDEs.

[HatchedLake721]

Yes and since few weeks ago it now comes for free with WebStorm.

[steve_adams_86]

Wow, that’s crazy! I need to give it a trial again.

Do you know how the LLM integration is? I heard it’s terrible, but that isn’t a deal breaker.