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by intended 504 days ago
>Simply ban discussions of some well-defined topics that tend to stir up controversies and heated discussion (even though "one side may be clearly right").

Yup. One of my favored options, if you are running your own community. There are some topics that just increase conflict and are unresolvable without very active referee work. (Religion, Politics, Sex, Identity)

2) This is fine ? Ah, you are considering a platform like Meta, who has to give space to everyone. Dont know on this one, too many conflicting ways this can go.

3) One thing not discussed enough, is how moderating affects mods. Your experience is alien to what most users go through, since you see the 1-3% of crap others don't see. Mental health is a genuine issue for mods, with PTSD being a real risk if you are on one of the gore/child porn queues.

These options to a degree are discussed and being considered. At the cost of being a broken record, more "normal" users need to see the other side of community running.

Theres MANY issues with the layman idea of Freespeech, its hitting real issues when it comes to online spaces and the free for all meeting of minds we have going on.

There are some amazing things that come out of it, like people learning entirely new dance moves, food or ideas. The dark parts need actual engagement, and need more people in threads like this who can chime in with their experiences, and get others down into the weeds and problem solving.

I really believe that we will have to come up with a new agreement on what is "ok" when it comes to speech, and part of it is going to be realizing that we want freespeech because it enables a fair market place of ideas. Or something else. I would rather it happen ground up, rather than top down.

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> Ah, you are considering a platform like Meta, who has to give space to everyone.

This is what I at least focused on since

- Facebook is the platform that the discussed article is about

- in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42852441 pixl97 wrote:

"Then this comes back to size of the network. HN for example is small enough that we have just a few moderators here and it works.

But once the network grows to a large size it requires a lot of moderators and you start running into problems of moderation quality over large groups of people."

As you said, consistent moderation is different that coverage. Coverage will matter for smaller teams.

There’s a better alternative for all of these solutions in terms of of consistency, COPE was released recently, and it’s basically a light weight LLM trained on applying policy to content. In theory that can be used to handle all the consistency issues and coverage issues. It’s beta though, and needs to be tested en masse.

Eh.. let me find a link. https://huggingface.co/zentropi-ai/cope-a-9b?ref=everythingi...

I’ve had a chance to play with it. It has potential, and even being 70% good is a great thing here.

It doesnt resolve the free speech issue, but it can work towards the consistency and clarity on rules issues.

I will admit I’ve strayed from the original point at this stage though