[hmmm-i-wonder]

I really hope you get your wish, I share it.

I gave up with tracking because the short life of a smart watch meant many of the more critical times (sleep/sleep tracking) would be interrupted by charging or dead batteries. I just want a band/strap that is focused on sensors and battery life WITHOUT a subscription.

Until that happens I'm staying out of the ecosystem entirely.

[valicord]

Garmin is what you're looking for. Battery lasts 1-2 weeks. No subscription.

[hmmm-i-wonder]

I'll take another look at them thanks.

I'd still prefer a band over a smart watch. When I initially looked at them they were very bulky and only had a few days battery life, but its been a while.