[diggan]

> But ChatGPT is just a glorified Wikipedia/Google

It really isn't, unless something really majorly changed recently. Neither of those you can query for something you don't know about. Lets say you want to find the meaning of a joke related to cars, Spain, politicians and a fascist, how you'd use Wikipedia and Google to find the specific joke I'm thinking about?

ChatGPT been really helpful (to me at least) to find needles from haystacks, especially when I'm not fully sure what I'm looking for.

[voidUpdate]

Every time I ask chatgpt, I get a different answer. Copilot refused to answer me. Not sure LLMs are the answer you're looking for here

[diggan]

I just tried it myself with ChatGPT o1 and with Claude's Sonnet 3.5, Sonnet got it after two messages, o1 after 4.

If you're unable to reproduce, maybe tune the prompt a bit? I'm not sure what to tell you, all I can tell you that I'm able to figure out stuff a lot faster today than I was 2-3 years ago, thanks to LLMs.

Additional hints that might help; the joke involves a car and possibly a space program.

[voidUpdate]

I ran it 10 times with the extra information, and each time got a different result. I don't know if any of them were the specific joke you were after, I get the feeling it was just making them up on the spot. None of them are even funny

[diggan]

Here is an example of Sonnet finding the right joke after two messages: https://i.imgur.com/nKvS2cW.png

It seems to be censored with US puritan morality (like most US models), but I think that's besides the point (just like if the joke is "even funny" or not), as it did find the correct joke at least.

[voidUpdate]

I just got a load of responses like "Sure, here’s a joke that combines cars, Spain, politicians, and a fascist with a touch of space humor: Why did the Spanish politician, the fascist, and the car mechanic get together to start a space program? Because the politician wanted to go "far-right," the mechanic said he could "fix" anything, and the fascist just wanted to take the car to the moon... so they could all escape when things got "too hot" here on Earth!"

[diggan]

Ok, that's cool. So because you were unable to find a needle in this case, your conclusion is that it's impossible that other people to use LLMs for this, and LLMs truly are just glorified Wikipedia/Google?

[dgfitz]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=+find+the+meaning+of+a+joke+r...

Second result. The first is this post.

[diggan]

Wow, the 90s came back to visit us at HN :) So funni.

Did quick scroll through the results, none of them seem to find the correct joke (none of the links even include "Spain" for me). Try again :)

For the record, this is what I see: https://i.imgur.com/XdsBGfM.png (no links to HN?)

[dgfitz]

Yeah... when I googled it initially I guess I got personalized results. After I left the link here I clicked on it (bad order of operations) and was surprised to find a much different set of search results.