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by chgs 505 days ago
Deep mind has one set of censorship, OpenAI another, anything musk does a third

It’s all “massaged”

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I don’t think “Taiwan is China” is the same kind of massaging as not telling people how to make napalm…

What a weird thing to equate, though!

But Taiwan is China. Even the USA acknowledge that.
No, they’ve acknowledged the policy. The US has not “agreed” with the policy, which is different.

Also, as someone in the US I can very safely say that Taiwan is not China and have no concern for my safety.

> Also, as someone in the US I can very safely say that Taiwan is not China and have no concern for my safety.

But you will be arrested if you stage a peaceful pro-Palestine protest asking for an end to the ongoing genocide.

Or even worse, if you say that Palestine is not Israel.

No I won't, in either case.

Watch: Palestine is not Israel.

Look, nobody swooping in from the rafters to lock me up. I have zero worries the government will do anything at all about my making this claim.

And if staging peaceful pro-Palestine protests result in arrests, what happened here?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_March_on_Washington:_...

or here?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_on_Washington_for_Gaza

Or does that not fit your narrative?

> Watch: Palestine is not Israel.

Yes, that works because you're an anon and nobody really cares. Try to publicly make that statement if you're in any relevant position and you'll very quickly be looking for a new job, if you can ever find it.

> And if staging peaceful pro-Palestine protests result in arrests, what happened here?

Be honest, you can literally google "Palestine protest arrests" and get more results than you could process in a while. You presenting a couple examples doesn't negate the many other protests ended in mass arrests.

It is though. Western AI tries to hide information like that with the justification of safety as well as things that might be offensive to current popular beliefs. Chinese AI presumably says Taiwan is China to help get more people on side for a possible future invasion. Propaganda does work - look at how many people think Donbas is still Ukraine and Israel is still Palestine.
The difference is that in China the info isn’t available without use of Western content, due to the totalitarian control over media, whereas in the West, information is pretty trivially available, even if the big companies keep it off of their platforms.

And sure ignorance is prevalent, but even GPT4 will tell me Donbas is still Ukraine, for instance. What a strange example to use, though!

"GPT4 will tell me Donbas is still Ukraine"

But is it though? What's really the meaning of which country a region belongs to? Once somewhere has been occupied long enough, it usually becomes de-facto theirs. But how long is long enough? Other countries either do or don't recognize it and usually a consensus is reached, but not always.

If western governments are so tolerant and permissive with information, I wonder why can't I access RT in Europe?
Because you don’t know how to use a Western VPN?
Isn't it the same in China then? They can also use VPNs