[addicted]

The point is that this was developed outside of OpenAI.

So the real question is why does anyone believe that OpenAI will bring AGI when actual innovation was happening in some hedge fund in China while OpenAI was going on an international tour trying to drum up a trillion dollars.

[FeepingCreature]

Okay, that argument makes no sense to me. I thought the whole point of VC is that money is cheaper than time to market? So OpenAI didn't microoptimize their training code, sure, but they didn't need to. All the innovation of R1 is that they managed to match OpenAI's tech demo from like a year ago using considerably worse hardware by microoptimizing the hell out of it. And that's cool, full credit to them, it's a mighty impressive model. But they did it like that because they had to. It's very impressive given their constraints, but it doesn't actually advance the field.