[animal_spirits]

This post is entirely about getting information from censored models. I'm sorry you are tired of it, but it is a valid exercise for the Deepseek model.

[notavalleyman]

No, youre mistaken. The model weights are not in any way censored. However, the web frontend has legal restrictions. When you're seeing posts about deepseek censorship, it's about the frontend and not the weights. As such, abliteration is irrelevant here

[genewitch]

My qwen "weights" refuse to answer the question and my front end is uncensored. So, what you are saying sounds incorrect to me.

[notavalleyman]

Qwen is different to deepseek. We were not talking about qwen. Abliteration might be a valid way to address what you're describing with qwen.

[genewitch]

oh so this model deepseek-r1-qwen-distilled isn't deepseek? ok. Thanks. I have a quarter TB of models, i don't test every single one just to comment on HN, thanks though.

[animal_spirits]

I am not claiming deepseek is censored. But these are tests to determine _if_ a model is censored. This would be a valid test for OpenAI models as well.