[nyarlathotep_]

Thanks for the sober perspective.

I really wonder what "losing the AI race" (typically meaning USA vs China) is supposed to indicate.

They have a better LLM or something......and then what? A rogue chatbot takes over the world or something?

We're like two plus years into being a few months away from LLMs taking every office jobs, and I'm still at a total loss as to where this is all supposed to go or what I'm even supposed to be sold on.

[refulgentis]

None of this thread means anything at all, it's 90% nihilistic cynicism wedded to 10% regurgitating talking points from their training data.

The real high-school-sophomore smelling thing, which you'd miss through all the purple prose about the Manhattan Project, is "open research is bad and proves it's fake bunko crap...that the Chinese are stealing(!?)"

I've been here for 15 years and am shuddering to think there are commentators here who would start selling you "open is bad" the instant they had a soapbox to pound their chest on.

[simianparrot]

That’s not what they wrote and you misinterpreted it. The point was that if it were true what is being claimed — that we’re close to AGI and we (the US, or EU, or China, etc., depending on where you live) must create it first or someone else will beat us to it and there’s no recovery from that — then the current behaviour makes no sense.

So someone is lying somewhere, and the end result is pumping stock prices.

[refulgentis]

Sure, if we only admit things in its cinematic universe it makes sense. It's incoherent as soon as you take a step out of the trees into the forest. For instance, we also know there's a well-made and popular argument that OpenAI is closed.

It's bizarre to flatten it to "they're giving it away because it's worthless but they're lying and saying its worth something so their stock goes higher", even setting aside the questionable premises that relies on.

[raxxor]

Is there already something more advanced than langchain? I haven't really seen many integrated AI applications aside from bots of course.

[gibbitz]

We lose the race when politicians platform to bring AI jobs back from China.