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by mugsie 504 days ago
Thats great if that works for you, and for a lot people and teams. You have just shifted the complexity of networking, storage, firewalling, IP management, L7 proxying to AWS, but hey, you do have click ops there.

> DevOps went from something you did when standing up or deploying an application, to an industry-wide jobs program. It’s the TSA of the software world.

DevOps was never a job title, or process, it was a way of working, that went beyond yeeting to prod, and ignoring it.

From that one line, you never did devops - you did dev, with some deployment tools (that someone else wrote?)
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ninjha 504 days ago
You can have Click-Ops on Kubernetes too! Everything has a schema so it's possible to build a nice UI on top of it (with some effort).

My current project is basically this, except it edits your git-ops config repository, so you can click-ops while you git-ops.

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k8sToGo 504 days ago
You mean ArgoCD and Rancher? Both ready to do click ops!
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ninjha 504 days ago
I mean you can edit a big YAML file inside ArgoCD, but what I'm building is an actual web form (e.x. `spec.rules[].http.paths[].pathType` is a dropdown of `Prefix`, `ImplementationSpecific`, `Exact`), and all your documentation inline as you're editing.

People have tried this before but usually the UI version is not fully complete so you have to drop to YAML. Now that the spec is good enough it's possible to build a complete UI for this.

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mugsie 504 days ago
Yup, and it has the advantage of having a easily backed up state store to represent the actions of the GUI.

I always liked the octant UI autogeneration for CRDs and the way it just parsed things correctly from the beginning, if they had an edit mode that would be perfect

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ninjha 504 days ago
Is there anything in particular you like about what Octant does? I don't see anything that actually looks at the object spec, just the status fields / etc.
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liveoneggs 504 days ago
ArgoCD has a "New App" button that opens an actual web form you fill out.
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k8sToGo 504 days ago
Sounds great. An interactive Spec builder, if I understand correctly.
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potamic 504 days ago
Anywhere we can see your project?
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