[billy99k]

This is also why all of the auto union are against electric cars. Some person working in their garage will no longer be able to work on cars and get a job as a mechanic/technician and instead will need to have the experience of an engineer.

It's very similar to the horse/buggy and car arguments of years past.

[kogus]

Serious question: why would auto unions care whether people can work on their cars in their garage or not?

[pizzafeelsright]

Unions support whatever gets them dues.

[nickff]

Cars that have shorter service lives would probably be best for automotive workers' unions.

[tonymet]

are you advocating or critiquing? i can't tell.

OP is advocating for developing efficient systems that are also easy to maintain. It is a valid concern.

[rUsHeYaFuBu]

Have you seen the inside of a modern ICE vehicle?

You pretty much need trade school to become a qualified mechanic anyways.

Additional, with trade school one can increase the amount they can get paid.

They educate on all vehicle types too, not just ICE.

[MarkMarine]

I have a modern diesel truck and a 1988 Land Cruiser. I’ve been a mechanic since I was 14 (farm tractors) and was a helicopter mechanic and crew chief in the marines, then a transmission mechanic on cars during college. I’ve got a mechanical engineering degree.

The Land Cruiser requires a lot more of my time working on it, but it’s a dream. I can fix something in a couple hours. The diesel, it’s a nightmare. Everything sucks working in it. Access is horrible, I end up having to jack into the CAN bus all the time, I spent a while with an oscilloscope plugged into it a month ago, and I’ve had to write my own software to interact with it.

Modern cars are more computer than car, and they are pushing more and more towards being fixed like them. I’d rather work on an electric car… what wears out? The cooling system? A bearing? Simple.

[jcgrillo]

The same overcomplex, proprietary computer surveillance systems infect all electric cars because they're all modern. They're all (for some reason?) connected to the internet, subject to OTA updates, and completely locked down to the end user. If a manufacturer would make an EV with open software and systems--no useless internet crap--for less than $100k I'd buy it tomorrow.

[ungreased0675]

My education is via YouTube and downloaded service manual, and I’m able to maintain my modern ICE car just fine. My hybrid scares me though. High voltage controlled by computers is nothing to play with.

[rUsHeYaFuBu]

There is a disconnect. And information on how to properly insulate and isolate away from the voltages that you may be dealing is also easily found.

It requires maybe a bit of research but it's not impossible.

Are you also able to rebuild your engine and transmission? Service every sensor on board your car? Have access to a diagnostic computer and dicern those codes?