[rbanffy]

> Consider for example MacOS removing the mouse acceleration setting. What a brave choice.

I haven’t used a Mac with a mouse in ages. I feel the trackpad interface is so much better (and consistent between laptop and desktop) that I think a move away from mice is a deliberate choice by Apple.

[IshKebab]

It's very good but mice are still undeniably better. Even Apple sell mice.

[Fnoord]

For gaming, absolutely. But macOS and Apple devices aren't tailored towards that, and their mice are oddballs anyway: one button, and heavily tailored towards gestures. They're a mouse and touchpad in one. I quit using it when I got RSI. Now I use a vertical mouse (by Logitech). Now that is one of a kind (but it does not do gestures well).

[IshKebab]

Not just for gaming. Mice are better for everything.

> Now I use a vertical mouse (by Logitech).

Ugh I tried that when I had RSI. Absolutely awful. The fundamental flaw is that you click sideways which always moves the pointer a little unless you strain to avoid it, which kind of defeats the point.

Get a better chair and desk. That solved the RSI for me - no weird ergonomic input devices made any difference.

[Fnoord]

For me, a couple of years ago a vertical mouse almost instantly solved my RSI which I only once had severe before in 40+ years of computer usage (that was due to physical work, though they attempted to gaslight me into being a heavy computer user). Using a mouse, trackpad or trackpad meant trouble. Slowly, it healed, and I can once again use a trackpad. But nowadays I do not use normal mice anymore for any prolonged tasks. Only my vertical one. I had a different one before the Logitech one. Some cheap ass brand. It worked well for a couple of months of heavy usage and then it had hardware malfunctioning. I went with the Logitech and years later still goes strong, with a couple of weeks of battery life.

You're wrong regarding mice being always superior. Mice have their place, and I am not the only person who has benefited from vertical mice (there is a learning curve, btw). Mice have a severe drawback: they need more physical, flat, clean space than the other pointer solutions. Try a mouse with a cyberdeck and tell me how that worked out. I've done pentesting tasks with a small laptop the size of two mice. I would not be able to do that outside on the go with a mouse. I also had situations where back in the days I had no space for a mouse, so I used my trackpoint.

[gjvc]

did you ever try a TrackPoint, with a HARD inverted dome, and mouse buttons under the space bar? Much faster for me than a mouse any day of the week.

[IshKebab]

You mean the IBM nub? Yeah I have used them. They're even slower than a touchpad. Probably the slowest kind of mouse there is!

[skydhash]

Maybe, but if you touch type and click at the same time, they’re faster.