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by randomifcpfan 502 days ago
The DeepSeek R1 paper explains how they trained their model in enough detail that people can replicate the process. Many people around the world are doing so, using various sizes of models and training data. Expect to see many posts like this over the next three months. The attempts that use small models will get done first. The larger models take much longer.

Small r1 style models are pretty limited, so this is interesting primarily from an “I reproduced the results” point of view, not a “here is a new model that’s useful” pov.
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rahimnathwani 502 days ago
From the Deepseek R1 paper:

  For distilled models, we apply only SFT and do not include an RL stage, even though incorporating RL could substantially boost model performance. Our primary goal here is to demonstrate the effectiveness of the distillation technique, leaving the exploration of the RL stage to the broader research community.
The impression I got from the paper, although I don't think it was explicitly stated, is that they think distillation will work better than training the smaller models using RL (as OP did).
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nielsole 502 days ago
> We demonstrate that the reasoning patterns of larger models can be distilled into smaller models, resulting in better performance compared to the reasoning patterns discovered through RL on small models

I found this statement from the paper to be at odds with what you cited, but I guess they mean SFT+RL would be better than either just SFT and RL

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rahimnathwani 502 days ago
I think they're saying that some reasoning patterns which large models can learn using only RL (i.e. without the patterns existing in the training data), can't be learned by smaller models in the same way. They have to be 'taught' through examples provided during SFT.
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