[hall0ween]

I agree neuroscience still in the stone age. Flooring the research I don’t think will do much to change it. It’s like flooring plasma physics research during the renaissance. We need different patterns of thinking, imo. Two examples come to mind: (1) our interest to boil down neural dynamics via quantization (what else would it look like, you may wonder. and exactly my point!) and (2) studying the brain in artificial environments. it’s like look at fish behavior while they’re in a tube in space

[echelon]

We need to stop thinking of human bodies as anything more than machines, and we need to start growing them in labs.

Conscious humans are obviously special. But if we grew non-thinking bodies and used them for research, we could vastly accelerate medical science, research and development, and treatments. We could accomplish this with gene knockouts.

It's too "icky" for people, so it hasn't been done.

[Mr_Blacky]

Then make yourself a lab rat.

[ben_w]

Do you mean in the sense of experiment on themselves, make themselves into a lab rat?

Or more literally, that they should make for themselves a lab rat, in the way The Thought Emporium is? https://youtu.be/Z_ZGq8Tah0k?si=UI18mJ4k5Xn4OtfD

[echelon]

That's what this whole gradient ascent game is. You're playing too.