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by Frost1x 503 days ago
Some states (CA, NY, IL, WA, OR come to mind) and many municipalities have additional explicit employment discrimination laws that cover much of these. Obviously it’s not at a federal level and will vary (much like the nonsense that shifting Roe v Wade unraveled). Not sure how that will play out exactly (I’m no legal expert).

The fact of the matter is, most employers aren’t naive and have always found legal proxy rationales to discriminate and prevent hiring or fire someone. If an employer doesn’t want to hire you or wants to fire you, they’ll find a way. That doesn’t mean these sorts of laws are entirely useless. Some employers are pretty stupid and through emotion vent out the real intentions in a recorded fashion, so these sorts of protections help there.

They also curb some of the language businesses choose to use, making them at least appear a little more professional, for example in this thread, by not calling their white workers “retarded” (not aware of this happening but it seems reasonable). They may think it, but they need to say “our current staff are inefficient” or something else of that nature. I like not being insulted based on my race, age, sex, orientation, etc. it sets some guidelines, even if you might detest me for those reasons I at least don’t have to listen to it daily. Now legally in many cases some might have to.

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> Some states (CA, NY, IL, WA, OR come to mind)

Yes. My concern is the opposite here; A lot of red states are gleefully following every whim of the Trump Administration, and we can expect their state-level equivalent rules (insofar they exist, which a fair amount of states already fail) to be revoked soon.

> The fact of the matter is, most employers aren’t naive and have always found legal proxy rationales to discriminate and prevent hiring or fire someone.

It's certainly a problem.

But secret and-or implied agreements to discriminate are less effective, and subject to obstruction by wilfully-ignorant staff. Where put into writing, you get things like Eric Schmidt creating evidence for the tech antipoaching cartel of the 2000s.

Letting companies get away with explicit & stated policies is much worse.

> for example in this thread, by not calling their white workers “retarded” (not aware of this happening but it seems reasonable).

Info on that particular reference: https://www.independent.co.uk/politics/elon-musk-americans-v...