[sdesol]

Agreed. I am no fan of the CCP but I have no issue with using DeepSeek since I only need to use it for coding which it does quite well. I still believe Sonnet is better. DeepSeek also struggles when the context window gets big. This might be hardware though.

Having said that, DeepSeek is 10 times cheaper than Sonnet and better than GPT-4o for my use cases. Models are a commodity product and it is easy enough to add a layer above them to only use them for technical questions.

If my usage can help v4, I am all for it as I know it is going to help everyone and not just the CCP. Should they stop publishing the weights and models, v3 can still take you quite far.

[spaceman_2020]

Curious why you have to qualify this with a “no fan of the CCP” prefix. From the outset, this is just a private organization and its links to CCP aren’t any different than, say, Foxconn’s or DJI’s or any of the countless Chinese manufacturers and businesses

You don’t invoke “I’m no fan of the CCP” before opening TikTok or buying a DJI drone or a BYD car. Then why this, because I’ve seen the same line repeated everywhere

[sdesol]

Anything that becomes valuable will become a CCP property and it looks like DeepSeek may become that. The worry right now is that people feel using DeepSeek supports the CCP, just as using TikTok does. With LLMs we have static data that provides great control over what knowledge to extract from it.

[LunaSea]

Any Chinese company above 500 employees requires a CCP representative on the board.

[almaight]

This is just an unfair clause set up to solve the employment problem of people within the system, to play a supervisory role and prevent companies from doing evil. In reality, it has little effect, and they still have to abide by the law.