[marbli2]

They can be more open and yet still not open source enough that claims of theirs being unverifiable are still possible. Which is the case for their optimized HAI-LLM framework.

[byefruit]

That's not what I'm saying, they may be hiding their true compute.

I'm pointing out that nearly every thread covering Deepseek R1 so far has been like this. Compare to the O1 system card thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42330666

Very different standards.