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by threatofrain 509 days ago
One wonders how many parents of non-script kiddies were affected by these destructive criminals, or how many of these script kiddies are professionals making a living.

This story concerns 18,000 script kiddies. Imagine the scale of impact we're talking about when magnified to their victims.

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I think you just can't compare those 2 scenarios, 25 years apart.

Back then: We got the 2nd computer in the household in 97, exactly so I would not have to use the family (actually business) computer anymore.

Now: I mean ok, maybe it's already swung past a certain point that there is actually only one non-mobile device in the home, but the chance that it is the targeted script kiddie's machine (and not the important family computer) is so much higher.

why does this logic make sense to anyone, ever?

someone does something bad -- by all means that gives whoever carte blanche to do whatever is just as bad or equally so to the victimizers.

This doesn't make sense -- even less sense when you realize that 'script kiddies' is anyone who ran an executable from an image board; you couldn't ask for a lower bar.

Half the people who downloaded the thing probably didn't even know what the fuck an IP address is, they probably shouldn't be the ones saddled with taking on the entirety of repercussion that was meant for the person(s) who wrote the tool.

tl;dr : I bet half of the '18,000' people were 11 year olds who typed 'google.com' or their least favorite AIM screen-name into the target criteria of this already half-assed 'tool', yet people act righteous for wiping their hard-drives as if they were the real culprit.

read : wiping the not-culprits parents hard-drives in many cases, I would bet.

First, parents are responsible for the actions of their children.

Second, we assign blame to the person that pulls the trigger, not the maker of the gun.

Third, these people are likely to never face any other form of punishment.

Personally, I think these facts justify this level of retribution. That doesn’t make it “legal” or “right”, but I definitely do not think it is “wrong”.

> Second, we assign blame to the person that pulls the trigger, not the maker of the gun.

The analogy here is more akin to a booby trap than a gun, in which case we do assign the blame to the person that made the contraption intended to harm the unwitting user.

That aside, considering once it was discovered how the drive wiper that OP (aaza) claims to have made works, it basically just became a drive wiper that any bad actor could drop into a target system and run, “I intentionally distributed malware that I think, but have no way of verifying, only hurt The Wrong Sort Of People” isn’t just illegal and wrong, it’s stupid.

> That aside, considering once it was discovered how the drive wiper that OP (aaza) claims to have made works, it basically just became a drive wiper that any bad actor could drop into a target system and run, “I intentionally distributed malware that I think, but have no way of verifying, only hurt The Wrong Sort Of People” isn’t just illegal and wrong, it’s stupid.

Imagine copying an entire binary onto a system just so you don't have to run `cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda`

> Imagine copying an entire binary onto a system just so you don't have to run `cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda`

Imagining script kiddies using stupid software in stupid ways very clearly and easily, also imagining a script kiddie pasting `cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda` into the windows command prompt of the computer he’s controlling with sub7 and getting very frustrated

Just because something is legal it doesn't make it moral and just because something is illegal it doesn't make it immoral
"when you realize that 'script kiddies' is anyone who ran an executable from an image board; you couldn't ask for a lower bar."

Wow. Just wow.

I looked at keygens and whacked an entire site of 900+. Not a single one did not have a virus, and some more than one. I kept it as a zoo to test scannets.

Astalavesta baby.

who bullies the bullies?
With LLMs, everybody can be a script kiddie. Imagine the scale ...
Running software from LLM output is like building a bomb with the Anarchist Cookbook.