[swyx]

much respect to you for driving this, but home assistant was unusable to me fyi https://github.com/swyxio/swyxdotio/issues/525

this is my friciton log. i am left with a $60 brick. hope your folks can use this to improve the experience.

[farawayea]

Home Assistant and the Home Assistant Operating System have a log of bugs, regressions, shortcomings and usability problems. They have far too many problems for me to even track them or write all of them down. That's not related to your experience. There are other issues which stand out based on what you've written.

The so called issues you've encountered appear to be due to insufficient knowledge and experience. It might be a good idea to learn more to better understand what's going on. What you've done is similar to complaining about being last in a swimming competition without learning how to swim properly first and without proper practice for several years.

[swyx]

im perfectly fine with that, and am not asking for a refund or anything. i am merely pointing out that as a fellow startup person in tech this kind of friction log is typically what you want to improve the experience, so that in 3-5 years you are not blaming your user for their skill issue when really its always possible to improve the experience. this is what i did for a living. this comes from empathy.

[zxvkhkxvdvbdxz]

seems your issues started from the beginning. you bought a HA voice believing it was a home assistant server.

it says right on their sales page it is a "voice assistant" and that it is "built for home assistant". [1]

then you didnt want to buy the HA green that is a home assistant appliance with HAOS already setup for people who don't want to diy it (like you didnt).

next you downloaded a .vdi and didnt research what it is or how to install it.

then you complain about docker images, although it is absolutely possible to run in docker as long as you understand the limitations [2]. did you even read this?

> hmm. new macs dont have apt-get anymore.

they never did. why dont you read whats in all of your screenshots? it says right above "if your OS don't have that, look for alternatives".

> Installing Virtualbox and double clicking the .vdi file i downloaded from earlier gives.... nothing

well, what do you expect? it's a disk image, not a executable. again, the installation instructions for macOS can help you here, you should read it [3]

> anyway, it looks like the default vdi ships with some well known bugs but ALSO its now just straight up missing the \EFI\BOOT\BOOTx64.efi file it expects to load. I found one you can download here and learned that you can import them into the vm via shared folders.

you found a post from 2021, it is not relevant today. then you started replacing files... oh man!

your actual issue is that you didn't configure the vm like the installation guide showed you.

next you got it running in docker. advice to you: don't. you will not be able to use addons and thus no hacs.

> of course it just expects the networking to work when of course it wont fucking work

> i tried ngrok to setup a tunnel but it just resulted in a bunch of bad 400 bad request errors

you must learn how docker networks work to progress here. docker only listen locally by default and you need to instruct it otherwise if that's what you want.

TLDR: you should have just started by reading the installation instructions, it explains to you:

> Home Assistant offers four different installation methods. We recommend using Home Assistant Operating System.

then you should follow the recommendation and be done long ago.

you seem frustrated and not keen on reading or learning.

not sure who you expect to take action based on that rant.

1: https://www.home-assistant.io/voice-pe/

2: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/#advanced-install...

3: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/macos

[Handprint4469]

yeah, for someone who wrote a book called "The Coding Career Handbook"[0], not being able to actually read the instructions, getting mad about it, and then posting a rant called "Home Assistant Voice Preview is an unusable mess"[1] is not a good look.

[0]: https://learninpublic.org/

[1]: https://github.com/swyxio/swyxdotio/issues/525