[AnimalMuppet]

That doesn't quite work. Trump lost on January 6th - the vote went against him.

I think the Rubicon was more this election. Caesar was in a position where, if he didn't bring his army to Rome, his political enemies were going to destroy him. Trump was in a position where, if he didn't win the election, his political enemies (and the legal cases arising from his various unusual activities) were going to destroy him.

But I wonder if that's really where we are. I wonder if we're not more at the time of Marius and Sulla, and the real Caesar is still 40 years away.

[mongol]

I see it as Nov 6 was when he crossed a border without return. He showed his cards. He lost that day, but he wins now, so prevailed in the end.