[gunian]

>You'll never convince someone logically of something that has to be experienced viscerally

"poofy guy in the sky doesnt care about war or rape or torture because someone ate an apple. sent his kid in the form of a human. kid was killed/human sacrificed. that saved all humanity. this doesn't stop rape, war, torture but it saved humanity"

the brain has to do some gymnastics to deal with dissonance

[heyjamesknight]

/r/atheism is leaking again.

[StefanBatory]

as militant as that sub is; I can't feel but understand them

that subreddit makes a looooot more sense when you treat it like you'd treat exislam or exmormon, people who were intentionally hurt by the church, both Catholic one and local Protestant

[heyjamesknight]

In my experience frequenting those boards as a former atheist, the vast majority of the militant atheist types were harmed more by their inability to compete in the standard hierarchies of society than they were by any particular Church or faith.

Most of them are angry at "The Man"—God just happens to be "The Man" at the very top.

[StefanBatory]

I get your perspective and I will admit there are surely cases like that - I still wouldn't say it's a vast majority.

Though that raises a question. For example if you were a LGBT person in Deep South and abused over that, who is to blame? Every individual who did that (unfortunately, in the name of religion), or the Church culture who allowed for that to be norm?

And anger over church. I'm Polish, and I'm bi. The most well-known bishops were politically hand-in-hand with the previous ruling party. I would hear in public state media how I'm a part of "rainbow disease" that's infecting the country. Church would often buy land for 1 (!)% of the price. At which point can I say that it wasn't just a few bad apples, but the whole structure who allowed for things to be that way?

[gunian]

haha don't know what that means / is but shout out poofy guy in the sky got better PR than the barons :)

dude created rape, torture and human sacrifice and gets less negative press than Trump and Elon

[MisterTea]

> sent his kid in the form of a human.

Jesus is God. Don't ask me how to explain it from a theological standpoint but from my understanding: God decided he wanted to better understand the NPCs in his HumanSim(TM) game so he straps on a VR headset, enters the game via a virgin birth hack, gets killed, then rage quit. Hasn't been seen since so likely started a new game on some other planet.

[gunian]

SV waiting for the HumanSim IPO